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In any case, why is it they head here and the other bleeding heart nations.

What if it was us that had to go there ? would there be open arms ? or would they strip you and leave you dead ?

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We should have reciprocal agreements with every nation, if they don't give us anything, we don't give them anything.

If we can't get a visa or invest, they can't get a visa or invest.

 

What is unfair with that ?

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Lol. Either this thread is full of trolls or uneducated f**ks.

 

:ph34r:

Lay your cards on the table, unless we're meant to accept your 10 word nothing up there as education?

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anyone see what the greens wanna do? fly our planes over to pick them up from their home countrys cause its safer for them..... :doh:

 

The "Greens" are obviously just "Reds" that have hijacked a eco-fascist agenda that does nothing for the environment but has everything to do with enslaving you, making everyone poor with an elite band of socialists that will tell you what you can and can't do. In any case, whenever a socialist govt gets into power, the economy and people suffer if not be totally devestated. I feel sorry for people that truly care about the environment but support this social-engineering unwittingly.

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More info on the story

 

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/asylum-seekers-aussie-only-sos-plea/story-fndo1sdf-1226436220053

 

ASYLUM seekers on a crippled boat tried a new tactic to reach Australia yesterday - asking an ABC reporter to send help from Australia.

But their request backfired when the ABC correspondent sent Indonesian rescue authorities to the aid of the boat, just a short distance off Bali at the time.

The passengers protested, saying they wanted to be rescued only by Australian authorities. But last night they were taken to an Indonesian island against their wishes.

There were earlier reports the boat had at first called the ABC, but reporter George Roberts last night tweeted that he had contacted the boat first.

Indonesian authorities said the boat broke down on Sunday but the group of more than 60 people wanted to reach Australia before they were located yesterday.

Passengers aboard the asylum seeker boat that ran into difficulties close to the coast of Bali made it clear they wanted to be saved only by Australian authorities.

 

When they received a phone call from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's Jakarta correspondent George Roberts, who asked about their predicament, they said they did not want to be rescued by Indonesian authorities.

An asylum seeker named Ahmed told Mr Roberts passengers had less than hour before the boat would be unsafe after the engines failed and its water pump broke.

He asked "So you can help us?" to which Mr Roberts replied: "I'll pass it on to rescue authorities."

Ahmed replied: "Oh, OK."

When they realised he had alerted Indonesian authorities and not Australian ones, the asylum seekers sounded panicked and stressed they wanted to be rescued only by Australian authorities.

"You has told Indon?" a female passenger asked.

When Roberts replied "Yes, I told Indonesian search and rescue" the woman replied: "Why? I come to Australia."

He explained "Australia is not co-ordinating the rescue" to which the woman replied: "No, no, no, no."

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority knew there was a vessel broken down off Bali but was unsure of the vessel's location until Roberts called, a spokeswoman said.

"He got a position of the vessel. It was well inside Indonesian waters," she said.

"BASARNAS (Indonesia's search agency) are sending a vessel to that location."

Indonesian authorities said the boat had broken down on Sunday but the group had wanted to reach Australia before they were located yesterday morning.

Three crew had abandoned the boat, a spokesman for Indonesia's search and rescue agency said.

"We are going to take them to Surabaya so that immigration officials can deal with them," the Indonesian spokesman said.

Refugee advocate Ian Rintoul claimed Australia should have gone to the aid of the passengers despite their very close proximity to Indonesia.

"It will be a complete disaster for the asylum seekers because they will be indefinitely detained in appalling conditions in Indonesia," Mr Rintoul said.

Opposition spokesman Scott Morrison said: "This is just further evidence of how ridiculous border protection has become under Labor's water taxi service policy for illegal boats."

Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare's spokeswoman said he was overseas and Australian Customs had no role in intercepting the vessel.

Meanwhile, two more boats arrived at Christmas Island yesterday. One of the vessels was tied up next to one that arrived on Sunday and the latest boat was so overcrowded that passengers climbed on to the empty boat to await removal to Flying Fish Cove.

The second boat to arrive yesterday carried just two Iraqi men and two crew.

It was intercepted off Ashmore Islands, with authorities unsure why just two passengers were on board.

It comes as the Australian Human Rights Commission has claimed asylum seekers who are not judged a risk to the community should not go into mandatory detention.

The commission urged the government to reform policies so that asylum seekers are assessed soon after arrival.

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What I find interesting is the total lack of bleeding hearts in this thread. If they had made it to Australian or even international waters we would have posts finding every excuse under the sun for these people.

 

Ahhh no, f**k 'em all, if they made it here and it was upto me I'd hold a shotgun to each of their heads tell to get the f**k back in the boat and go home,can't just turn up and expect a free ride, not fussed how many immigrants we let in legally within reason but they have to go through the proper channels

What I find interesting is the total lack of bleeding hearts in this thread. If they had made it to Australian or even international waters we would have posts finding every excuse under the sun for these people.

 

even if it was in australian waters i wouldnt care. if they choose to come the illegal way.. tough shit. if i were prime minister id pick them up at sea, then fly them directly to their respective country, without even a glimpse at australia.

 

here here

 

I think you guys missed my point.

I am not saying that you are all changing your tunes, i am saying that the bleeding heart apologists have kept their ignorant mouths shut because they can't make any excuses this time.

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Refugee advocate Ian claimed Australia should have gone to the aid of the passengers despite their very close proximity to Indonesia.

"It will be a complete disaster for the asylum seekers because they will be indefinitely detained in appalling conditions in Indonesia," Mr Rintoul said.

This guys going down

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Typical do gooder gug, you wanna save a refuge? Go buy a boat and do it yourself and see how long you'll put up with there constant arrivals and there shitty attitudes.

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What I find interesting is the total lack of bleeding hearts in this thread. If they had made it to Australian or even international waters we would have posts finding every excuse under the sun for these people.

 

even if it was in australian waters i wouldnt care. if they choose to come the illegal way.. tough shit. if i were prime minister id pick them up at sea, then fly them directly to their respective country, without even a glimpse at australia.

This would cost less than what they spend now housing and processing AND solve the boat people problem, Eventually costing the country nothing.

 

Half the costs they say in the media still don't factor in most if not all of defences cost yet.

 

This is just a brief rundown for the raaf side let alone navy and army units on operation resolute (border protection), flights every week for personnel between adel and darwin (a crew of about 20-30 people), each flight for an ap3-c at a min costs 50k (at least one flight per day can always be multiple), and then if there's a search and rescue for a stricken boat that 50k will go through the roof, meal allowances, transport costs once in darwin and to add to the fact this has been going on for 11 years.

 

I shudder at the thought how much we have spent on just patrolling our waters let alone housing and processing these people.

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The contract for the planes flying around (dash 8's and the reims F406) is over a billion a year, its ~40% of Cobham Aviations profit...

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maybe put these on the coast. Might be cheaper long term? :D

 

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"It will be a complete disaster for the asylum seekers because they will be indefinitely detained in appalling conditions in Indonesia,"

 

You mean like back home.. Where they originally came from?

I don't see what's wrong with that?

 

We should invest in a fence. (Like china) but around our coastlines, with 60,000 volts across it.

If they pass, they enter. If not.. Then we'll send the other illegal, unknown boat people to pick them up.

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This is f**king bullshit, every day a new boat turns up. This country is going down the toilet. They need to sort this shit out.

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This is f**king bullshit, every day a new boat turns up. This country is going down the toilet. They need to sort this shit out.

 

You're right mate. Better get out while we still can lest we go down with all the rest.

Edited by S3 TRXTC

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yeah this country is f**ked. We should all sail to some other country and start a new life!

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Who's got a boat so we can get there? Imgine the fines we would get, how WE would be treated if we did...

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The thing that sickens me is that EVERY time a REAL threat occurs to people (world wars, gulf war, original afghan war, etc), they go to the nearest anywhere that won't kill or rape them.

For some illegals their circumstances are genuinely tragic, but it's almost impossible to take them seriously when they travel to the most remote place possible, making a particularly dangerous path to get there, when safety was much closer to their source. That's just looking for an upgrade.

 

If a homeless guy was complaining of hunger, someone fetched him a sandwich and he cracked the sh*ts because it wasn't a three-course meal, even that tosser Ian would probably lay down the pimp hand. No difference to this.

Edited by pmod

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let them drown it will be funny, then somone else can give f**ks because i dont.

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Keep the negative boguns comments out of this thread. If you have a view and/or opinion, at least do it in a educated way.

 

This isn't ths bus mall you loiter at after school.

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Another thing I find interesting is these pro refugee f**kin retards who are saying these people will suffer in terrible conditions in Indonesian refugee camps if they don't make it to Australia. Every other day you hear these same morons talk about how terrible life is in Australian detention centres.

Which one is it numb nuts?

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Another thing I find interesting is these pro refugee f**kin retards who are saying these people will suffer in terrible conditions in Indonesian refugee camps if they don't make it to Australia. Every other day you hear these same morons talk about how terrible life is in Australian detention centres.

Which one is it numb nuts?

 

Some of the most socially destructive and hypocritical people out there are the supposed 'do gooders'

 

Complain about America interfering with other countries... demands America steps in when some African dictator gives kids kalashnikovs.

Complain about American damage and deaths in Iraq... refuse to acknowledge the guy before them killed 20 times more of his own people and neighbours, often much more brutally.

Complain about the environmental pollution... punch out their catalytic converter or get angry when their power bill rises.

Complain about the poor people in third world countries... don't want more ethnics in their neighbourhood.

Complain bitterly about greedy companies who don't dote over employee OH&S... get angry that so many businesses are moving offshore.

Complain about the government's spending practises... votes for Greens.

 

The boat people are only one thing of an impressive collection of stupidity for these people.

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Those boat ppl have to be towed back to where they came from. They pay up to $20000 to get on to those boats. When my family immigrated here just on a normal permanent resident visa and not even a asylim visa or anything like that, we sold everything we had in my country and we got just enough money for the plane tikets for 3 of us and a 2-3 weeks of rent money for a appartment, thats all we had because it was bad in Russia in the 90s and no body would even consider giving us a asylim visa. We had it hard and my dad has a phd and he couldnt get a job even as a sales person at a shop or anything like that because there was no jobs what so ever, thats why we moved but if those boat ppl can find the money to pay up to $20000 to get onto a illigal boat then they are not really in a hard position and be sent back to where they come from. Our tax money could be put to better use like hospitals and education here

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Those boat ppl have to be towed back to where they came from. They pay up to $20000 to get on to those boats. When my family immigrated here just on a normal permanent resident visa and not even a asylim visa or anything like that, we sold everything we had in my country and we got just enough money for the plane tikets for 3 of us and a 2-3 weeks of rent money for a appartment, thats all we had because it was bad in Russia in the 90s and no body would even consider giving us a asylim visa. We had it hard and my dad has a phd and he couldnt get a job even as a sales person at a shop or anything like that because there was no jobs what so ever, thats why we moved but if those boat ppl can find the money to pay up to $20000 to get onto a illigal boat then they are not really in a hard position and be sent back to where they come from. Our tax money could be put to better use like hospitals and education here

Thankyou, if only more could see it your way.

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Those boat ppl have to be towed back to where they came from. They pay up to $20000 to get on to those boats. When my family immigrated here just on a normal permanent resident visa and not even a asylim visa or anything like that, we sold everything we had in my country and we got just enough money for the plane tikets for 3 of us and a 2-3 weeks of rent money for a appartment, thats all we had because it was bad in Russia in the 90s and no body would even consider giving us a asylim visa. We had it hard and my dad has a phd and he couldnt get a job even as a sales person at a shop or anything like that because there was no jobs what so ever, thats why we moved but if those boat ppl can find the money to pay up to $20000 to get onto a illigal boat then they are not really in a hard position and be sent back to where they come from. Our tax money could be put to better use like hospitals and education here

Thankyou, if only more could see it your way.

The problem is even the countries these people are coming from will not take them back, and even if they would the bastards just cut holes in their boat when the navy is in sight so that we are forced to take them on board.

 

Off shore processing is the next best thing for this, we just need a way to shut up all the bleeding heart hippies who are crying that what we are doing in inhumane...

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i wonder if any of you have spent a day in the life of an asylum seeker, the fight for survival they go through on a daily basis, many from the day their born.

see its too easy to sit here and say F*k them, send them back, let them drown etc when you'll prob never experience what they go through.

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i wonder if any of you have spent a day in the life of an asylum seeker, the fight for survival they go through on a daily basis, many from the day their born.

see its too easy to sit here and say F*k them, send them back, let them drown etc when you'll prob never experience what they go through.

 

Mmmm. Now tell me,

 

Mr A spends 2years saving hard and selling possessions whilst applying like crazy for a Visa/Citizenship

 

Mr B spends 2years saving hard and selling possessions and gives it all to some shady man and jumps on a boat and hits the high seas with absolutely no intention of announcing his arrival.

 

BUT

 

To add to this, Mr B also makes it undiscovered, reaches the mainland and gets cash work in shops or on farms/deals drugs/kills people for money. Never pays a cent of income tax because he can't announce he's here all while Mr A has done everything by the book to become a contributing citizen?

 

You don't have to bother gettin back to me with your answer.

 

 

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Actually while in at it btw, Mr B also possibly gets busted, cries poverty and wants you to get over it that he never intended to get here legally and wants you to grant him asylum status so he can get straight into the welfare system that YOU/ME and MR A are paying for out of our pockets.

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i wonder if any of you have spent a day in the life of an asylum seeker, the fight for survival they go through on a daily basis, many from the day their born.

see its too easy to sit here and say F*k them, send them back, let them drown etc when you'll prob never experience what they go through.

The thing you bleeding hearts always fail to comprehend is that boat people are very often NOT genuine refugees.

Every time we let in a non genuine refugee, a real one who is on the waiting list gets pushed back another notch.

 

If these people were genuine they would not be destroying their documents before they leave for Australia.

 

The non refugees might be leaving home for a better life in Australia, and it might be something any one of us might do in their situation, but that doesn't mean Australia can afford to allow it.

Our economy relies on people who can work and contribute to our economy. We can only afford to support the welfare dependence of a limited number of people. The majority of refugees are dependant on the dole for over 5 years after arriving here.

 

Take a look at the countries with loose immigration laws, their economies are f**ked now.

 

If you feel obliged to sacrifice this country to be nice to people, give up your spot in the country for somebody else.

Edited by Chappy

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