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I cannot think of a more creatively stunted genre of music.

 

How it produced somthing as cool as the melbourne shuffle I will never know.

It didn't produce the Melbourne Shuffle.

Hardstyle wasn't even being played at raves in the early 90s when the Melbourne Shuffle was emerging.

Hardstyle produced "Hardstyling" .. that is all.

 

 

 

Oh well I gave it too much credit. Balance is restored.

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edit: cant upload other CD i made, will be for personal use i guess lol

 

Sooooo, I made a new one. Almost songs as previous list but some ins and outs. No where near as smooth but not bad

 

NOTE: Some odd reason, the recording didnt register till about a 1min50sec so skip to then, rest of CD is fine.

 

1. In the end(Brennan heart remix)

2. Who I am - Frontliner FT McMillan

3. Elektro Shock - Toneshifterz

4. Recession - The Prophet

5. Summer of Hardstyle - Proppy and Heady

6. Double Dutch Darkies - TNT

7. Never Say Never - Gostosa

8. Choirs - Zatox

9. Revival X - Brennan Heart

10. Rock Civilization - Headhunterz remix

11. Sahara - Toneshifterz

12. FTS - Showtek

13. The Sacrifice - Brennan Heart remix

 

Size:133.9 MB

Length - 59min 29sec

http://rapidshare.co...tylemix2010.mp3

(still trying to figure out how to xfer it to my account)

Next CD will be another "favourites" or underground hardstyle?

 

Just listened to the mix bro, good choices in songs there! :thumbsup:

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^^^thanks :)

 

apologize for the beginning, just didnt register for some reason. Ill make another CD on the weekend, this new job is killing me so i once i have some time off i will make a new one.

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Yo Fill any chance you can make me a mix if I send you some track titles?

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yeah bro, send me the track list and the order you want. Always looking to expand my song database :) Send it asap so i can make it first thing in the morning, Ill buy the songs tonight

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fillme I dl'd your link but no sound plays :S

 

Edit: first 2:30 or so has no sound thats why!

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fillme I dl'd your link but no sound plays :S

 

Edit: first 2:30 or so has no sound thats why!

 

To answer your question bud.

 

edit: cant upload other CD i made, will be for personal use i guess lol

 

Sooooo, I made a new one. Almost songs as previous list but some ins and outs. No where near as smooth but not bad

 

NOTE: Some odd reason, the recording didnt register till about a 1min50sec so skip to then, rest of CD is fine

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yeah bro, send me the track list and the order you want. Always looking to expand my song database :) Send it asap so i can make it first thing in the morning, Ill buy the songs tonight

 

Sweet as thanks man, Let me look up some songs and I shall send you a track list! :thumbsup:

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I dont like where hardstyle is heading! 2002 - 2005 was the best years for hardstyle, now its just turning to rubbish! Main culprit being Headhunterz. His old productions were good but now its just rubbish. Defqon1 2010 Aus anthem for a example!

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made a new CD, uploading it tomorrow :)

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I dont like where hardstyle is heading! 2002 - 2005 was the best years for hardstyle, now its just turning to rubbish! Main culprit being Headhunterz. His old productions were good but now its just rubbish. Defqon1 2010 Aus anthem for a example!

 

I agree completely, although I'm more of a 2004-2008 person. The killer screechy italian stuff from Zatox & Acti from 06 to 08 being my favourite. Now it's all dong and tok melody saturated extended break hollow bullshit, current nu-style is hardly a representation of the older hardstyle and has lost all of its aggressive power and punch. It's why I quit the genre and moved to industrial hardcore.

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That's Hard Trance. Like Silver Machine which is much better its close to the border, but its still Hard Trance.

 

No Walt alias track is Hardstyle.

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My rave rant - each rocker hardstyler, clubber, hard music listener, substance taker, sickcunt, muzza, ghead...have a read.

 

lulz, plur

 

 

The scene is dying before reaching adolescence. Killed by the media which in turn basically govern the authorities and killed by blow outs, where the majority is the one left to suffer, because of the actions of the minority which are publicized.

 

The problem is not hard dance, the problem is not the clubs. the problem is the media, government and police making assumptions and acting on them to suite the Nana nation that Australia has become, to suite the ratings that the news is tailored to broadcast to, to bring power and more votes to their political campaigns.

 

What is shown on television?

 

"3 people arrested and behind bars overnight on the melbourne dance music scene these people would have supplied party goers with illicit substance that has the potential to harm or kill"

 

Cut to brief video of lazers and some random tech music, cut to some uneducated ignorant, acting macho fool, bad mouthing the police and media, and then cut to a some leading statistics annalist to say some more bullshit about the bullshit being said.

 

The nanas are left feeling "those damn young hoodlums, doing those drugs, wasting their lives, harming other people, they should go to church and pray for their sins!" *old naggy nana voice* "ill vote for X politician coz he said hes going to put more police patrols to keep me safe from these criminals"

 

sorry i just wanted to have a rant >.

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Sorry to hijack the thread. :whistle:

 

haha nice rant. I have been in the scene for quite a while now, and personally believe that it's gone to shit because of all those involved in the actual scene. ie; the current generation of ravers.

 

So what if we vote for another politician. So what if ACA shows those sort of stories. It doesn't affect the dance music community anywhere near as much as something on imports. Why? Well the can't really bring in any 'new laws' to stop anything. All they can do is tighten security.

Events aren't being cancelled because the government/pollies don't want them. They are being cancelled as organisers do not what their event to have a shit reputation for the amount of f**kwits in victoria that OD, or just f**k up the festival.

 

I'm still not quite sure what you feel the government/media is actually doing to kill the rave scene.

The commercialisation of it has had MUCH more of an effect on the kinds of people that go to these events, and it's decline in quality, than the bad stories on the news.

But as many will say.. it's only 'evolution.' Things change.

 

I also wrote out a little article a fair while ago, have a read.. :)

 

Basically 'RAVERS' are a dying breed.

The scene has been constantly evolving since it began over 20 years ago. And it will be forever changing until it DIES (if ever truely.. and not just merely another change).

The answer to why the clubs aren't supported enough is quite simple, and is as follows.

The older generation, or 'ravers' (i'm pretty sure from what i've seen, we are the last) are dying out. Week in, week out, at most clubs, the crowd changes.

People come into the scene, LEARN ABOUT IT, have their time, take from it what they will, and then no longer go out for whatever reason. This is quite often due to the fact that they can no longer take any more 'experiences' from the scene as they have done it do death. This is also quite often due to drugs, as drugs and the rave scene exist in a parallel.

Some simply can't afford the drugs, or to pay for entry into clubs and events, as they're trying to settle down and save money. And as most ravers know, when you're going out every weekend, it's quite difficult to afford unless you have a decent job.

So theres another reason.

 

Basically, what this is leading to, is the fact that the scene has evolved and changed so much and SO FAST within the past 5-7 years, and become quite 'mainstream,' that every *milkshake* and his dog can access 'the scene' through the internet or youtube.

This leads to ALOT of misinterpretation about what the RAVE SCENE is, what it provides, how it came about, and all the history in relation to it.

I know when I came into the scene, I already had an endless amount of knowledge on it, yet no real experience (which you can only get from being a part of the scene).

 

This is the main problem of today!

 

The fact that young kids are enjoying this almost 'mainstream' music called hard trance and hardstyle, and enjoy taking drugs, clubs have now become exactly that. A place to take drugs. (hence why the scene is now full of sleeze bags and junkies, rather than ravers).

It USED to be "we go out to a rave club to listen to the music, and have a dance, and we MAY take drugs to enhance all this."

NOW its "we're going to go take drugs at this club, theres also sick music there bro."

 

The whole IDEAL of what the scene is about has almost been completely abolished, as the younger generation see no need to learn about the scene. They take it as a given. They can access it through 'youtube.' They can get onto underage forums and improve their 'shuffle.' All the wrong attitudes are formed as they do not yearn to learn the history of what the scene is, and these attitudes are taken into the scene with them when they DO finally decide to go to rave clubs.

Hence it making the whole environment a really shit place due to every above mentioned point.

 

THIS is why the scene will die out, and THIS is why alot of people don't come out anymore. Because the whole 'new generation' cannot comprehend more than a youtube link, and one single minded egotistical way of thinking about the scene.

 

-Sharkie

ie; the scene is now full of wankers and shitcunts because alot of these new people coming into it see that everyone else is, and it's ok to act like that. The environment now suits them as a person.

It used to be PLUR PLUR PLUR, hugs, kisses, massive smiles. And considering 99% of people were fluro coloured and happy, any new *richard cranium* who came in and saw this was either going to change their ways, or just never go back.

Now, it's almost difficult to find these sort of people.

I've seen people come and go, and fall into the same shit every time, as people are always 'changing.' Alot of 'the scene' goes straight to their heads, and this is partly due to my previous mentioned points.

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You lead a very naive life if you think it is all a conspiracy of the police and the media and that you're all victimless souls left with nowhere to party safely.

 

Were you at Ultraworld Kryal 2007? X-Qlusive Showtek? Trance Energy @ Calder Park? It wasn't just 'a couple' of people who were abusing GHB and getting themselves and the party put on the news. This kind of negative publicity that ravers put themselves into the spotlight for, and then wonder why the club venues get shut down, party organisers cease operations, councils stop hiring public arenas like Kryal to organisers, which erodes the Melbourne scene.

 

Did you know that after Ultraworld 2007 when Ballarat hospital was overloaded with junkie shitheads blowing out on GHB stretching their resources to the absolute limit and the local council banned the use of Kryal castle as a rave venue, do you know what the chat was around the traps? Ravers were going to go to Ballarat and deliberately blow out on GHB in retaliation.

 

Melbourne has a GHB culture that is out of control. It is this that has brought on the press and the pressure for operators to clean up, or shut down, and in most cases one leads to the other. I've watched Johnny retarded raver eat this scene alive with its own ignorance and substance abuse, both as a regular punter and as a DJ.

 

Also, you will find that it is only Victoria's underground hard dance scene that is suffering. Sydney and Brisbane are doing fine - and have little to no GHB culture.

 

Nevertheless, this is not the kind of discussion to have in a thread about music explicitly - because the problems Melbourne have are deeper than Hardstyle.

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I always liked tracks like Bad Time, The Anthem & I Love Hardstyle more than that.

 

 

Who here collects HS vinyl?

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You lead a very naive life if you think it is all a conspiracy of the police and the media and that you're all victimless souls left with nowhere to party safely.

 

Were you at Ultraworld Kryal 2007? X-Qlusive Showtek? Trance Energy @ Calder Park? It wasn't just 'a couple' of people who were abusing GHB and getting themselves and the party put on the news. This kind of negative publicity that ravers put themselves into the spotlight for, and then wonder why the club venues get shut down, party organisers cease operations, councils stop hiring public arenas like Kryal to organisers, which erodes the Melbourne scene.

 

Did you know that after Ultraworld 2007 when Ballarat hospital was overloaded with junkie shitheads blowing out on GHB stretching their resources to the absolute limit and the local council banned the use of Kryal castle as a rave venue, do you know what the chat was around the traps? Ravers were going to go to Ballarat and deliberately blow out on GHB in retaliation.

 

Melbourne has a GHB culture that is out of control. It is this that has brought on the press and the pressure for operators to clean up, or shut down, and in most cases one leads to the other. I've watched Johnny retarded raver eat this scene alive with its own ignorance and substance abuse, both as a regular punter and as a DJ.

 

Also, you will find that it is only Victoria's underground hard dance scene that is suffering. Sydney and Brisbane are doing fine - and have little to no GHB culture.

 

Nevertheless, this is not the kind of discussion to have in a thread about music explicitly - because the problems Melbourne have are deeper than Hardstyle.

 

Well said!

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CLICK LINK TO DOWNLOAD

 

 

My latest Hardstyle Set. Kinda Gettin outta the style for all the reasons above. Or just pumping out some old tracks in new sets. Circa 2005-2008

 

The ONLY producer atm that makes me excited is Dutch Master tbh.

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pop quiz hotshot,

name the song from this alex kidd remix

 

lyrics:

We can fight our desires

But when we start making fires

We get ever so hot

Whether we like it or not

They say we can love who we trust

But what is love without lust?

Two hearts with accurate devotions

And what are feelings without emotions?

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pop quiz hotshot,

name the song from this alex kidd remix

 

lyrics:

We can fight our desires

But when we start making fires

We get ever so hot

Whether we like it or not

They say we can love who we trust

But what is love without lust?

Two hearts with accurate devotions

And what are feelings without emotions?

 

 

i do believe it would be "in for the kill"

 

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just made a CD, def not my best work but eh. Ill post it up after its finished converting :)

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Btw that song is "in for the Kidd" Alex Kidd remix of La Roux

 

Clicky

 

Note so self: not too many drinks before making a CD

 

1. Ride with uz - D-Block & S-te-fan(Max Enforcer remix)

2. Creation - Zatox

3. Gangsta - Tatanka & Zatoz(Tat n Zat)

4. Muzic or Noize - Wildstylez

5. Lost in dreams - Mike NRG(Alpha Twins remix)

6. Gold - Max Enforcer(Original mix)

7. Pas Americano - RanD

8. Be Prepared - Stuback

9. Pull your strings 2010 - Psyko Punkz

10. A complex situation - Wildstylez

11. Angels and Demons - Toneshifterz

12. Feel the Rythym - Psyko Punkz

13. Summer in the city PT.1 - Noisecontrollers

14. Yellow minute - Noisecontrollers(Alpha Twins remix)

 

Duration: 1hr 4min 57sec

BPM: 150

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