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#91 R32GTRS

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:49 AM

Go external gate and do it properly at least

#92 blingcommander

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 11:58 AM

View PostSTR8E180, on 11 September 2011 - 08:23 PM, said:

this is why i dont think precision should be class in the same catagory as kinugawa.

the powertune drift car aka terry uses a Precision 5557 rated at 500hp the car makes 400kw
i dont know of many 500hp turbos which can make those sort of numbers
don't trust turbos do the same? IMO just sounds like they underplay their hp ratings

#93 whyte

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:03 PM

wanna keep it low mounted.
possible to get a low mount RB25 manifold to suit 44mm gate?

#94 R32GTRS

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:07 PM

Depends how much you're willing to spend on the setup to run a cheap turbo I guess. But once you've got the manifold you;ve got it forever.
If I were to run one of these Id just highmount it with a tial gate and be done with it.

#95 blingcommander

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:09 PM

6boost do, and lowmount looks gangster

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#96 R32GTRS

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:10 PM

Are they extra bling or about the same as the highmount versio. Looks like the highmount mani upside down basically lol

#97 whyte

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:12 PM

just checked, same price as top mount i believe.
other option is to low mount with stock manifold and custom weld the gate to the rear housing.

top mount would look pretty gangster tho but cops won't like it haha

#98 blingcommander

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:13 PM

pretty sure they are the same price. mate was looking at one a while ago, just just got another highmount coz he was too lazy to re-do the pipework

#99 R32GTRS

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:13 PM

View Postwhyte, on 12 September 2011 - 12:12 PM, said:

just checked, same price as top mount i believe.

top mount would look pretty gangster tho but cops won't like it haha

Meh your gone anyway if they pop the bonnet usually I wouldnt worry too much.
If a cop has half a clue alarm will go off when he see's a 4" comp cover you'd think.

#100 STR8E180

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 12:29 PM

View Postwhyte, on 12 September 2011 - 11:46 AM, said:

KEMP; is there any precision turbos that can be low mounted on a RB25 and will make 300rwkw or more?
almost any turbo can be low mounted with the right manifold
biggest housing u can go low mount is a A/R 70 compressor housing which means u can go pretty big

#101 STR8E180

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:11 PM

anyone have results or feedback on the TD06 25g? rated at 450 to 500hp
this would be my choice for a SR
http://cgi.ebay.com/...=item2a1370ed20

#102 Rifleman

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:31 PM

I just got the TD06SL2-20g 8cm with the 3" intake. Going to low mount on stock s13 Manifold and might to a little installation thread on it. Lets see what it can do on a stock SR20 with Hks 256/264, Nismo 750cc and a nistune.

#103 STR8E180

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:39 PM

View PostBradshaw, on 09 September 2011 - 08:43 AM, said:

They are basically Mitsubishi turbos

just to confirm for those people who think that these turbos are made in Japan or they use Mitsubishi parts they do not
im not doubting the quality of the turbo just thought i would clear that up as some people might be bragging false information


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Sir, this cartridge was made by our company, not Mitsubishi
We are a professional turbo and turbo parts manufacture in Taiwan.
You can trust the quality.


Thank you&Best Regards
Sachiko
web : KinugawaTurbo

on the tag which is riveted to the compressor housing it says Made in Japan ????

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#104 STR8E180

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 03:45 PM

View PostBradshaw, on 09 September 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

Kinugawa FTW. I'd take one of these over a $2400 twin scroll gtx3071
f**k that! i would rather a twin scroll GTX3071 !!! that turbo matched up with the right manifold would be an awesome setup

#105 brent47

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:11 PM

Thanks for the help and recommendation for the precision unit Kemp :thumbsup:

Quality and a billet comp wheel for a fraction of the cost of a Garrett unit

#106 jonesl

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:13 PM

View PostSTR8E180, on 12 September 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

View PostBradshaw, on 09 September 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

Kinugawa FTW. I'd take one of these over a $2400 twin scroll gtx3071
f**k that! i would rather a twin scroll GTX3071 !!! that turbo matched up with the right manifold would be an awesome setup

I think your forgetting the whole point of this thread, Its not to say Kinugawa turbos are better than your precision's or Garrett's.
They are just cheap, And quality seems to be some where inbetween the china spec POS and Garrett.

Don't care if they are made in Afghanistan, They are getting good results.
Value for money= winning.

#107 STR8E180

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:18 PM

View Postjonesl, on 12 September 2011 - 04:13 PM, said:

View PostSTR8E180, on 12 September 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

View PostBradshaw, on 09 September 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

Kinugawa FTW. I'd take one of these over a $2400 twin scroll gtx3071
f**k that! i would rather a twin scroll GTX3071 !!! that turbo matched up with the right manifold would be an awesome setup

I think your forgetting the whole point of this thread, Its not to say Kinugawa turbos are better than your precision's or Garrett's.
They are just cheap, And quality seems to be some where inbetween the china spec POS and Garrett.

Don't care if they are made in Afghanistan, They are getting good results.
Value for money= winning.
aaawwww NO.... i was just stating some information which i have found and thought i would share it because it seems like people are spreading the wrong information around

#108 Bradshaw

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:32 PM

View PostSTR8E180, on 12 September 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

View PostBradshaw, on 09 September 2011 - 10:02 AM, said:

Kinugawa FTW. I'd take one of these over a $2400 twin scroll gtx3071
f**k that! i would rather a twin scroll GTX3071 !!! that turbo matched up with the right manifold would be an awesome setup
I think some comparisons will be needed to add to this thread as it's getting juicy!

#109 jonesl

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:34 PM

Thanks for clearing that up then =)
Maybe the Badge is made in japan =p

#110 STR8E180

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:39 PM

for a bang for bux turbo i dont think there is much out there that will beat a kinugawa i would like to see back to back testing between the TD06 25g and a garrett GT3071R (T3 external gate version) both are 500hp turbos and both are external gate

#111 -Kempo-

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:44 PM

View PostSTR8E180, on 12 September 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

for a bang for bux turbo i dont think there is much out there that will beat a kinugawa i would like to see back to back testing between the TD06 25g and a garrett GT3071R (T3 external gate version) both are 500hp turbos and both are external gate

This is what i would like to see also.

#112 jonesl

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 04:48 PM

Kempo did you figure out which one will be best for your 1JZ, From the tread on SAU the consensus seems to be td06 t25g

#113 slammed14

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 05:07 PM

View PostRifleman, on 12 September 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

I just got the TD06SL2-20g 8cm with the 3" intake. Going to low mount on stock s13 Manifold and might to a

little installation thread on it. Lets see what it can do on a stock SR20 with Hks 256/264, Nismo 750cc and a
nistune.

Keep us updated im doing the same setup but with the s15 style front cover not the 3inch would be good to see the difference the front cover makes

#114 STR8E180

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 05:34 PM

View Postslammed14, on 12 September 2011 - 05:07 PM, said:

View PostRifleman, on 12 September 2011 - 03:31 PM, said:

I just got the TD06SL2-20g 8cm with the 3" intake. Going to low mount on stock s13 Manifold and might to a

little installation thread on it. Lets see what it can do on a stock SR20 with Hks 256/264, Nismo 750cc and a
nistune.

Keep us updated im doing the same setup but with the s15 style front cover not the 3inch would be good to see the difference the front cover makes
cover will make f**k all difference

#115 Rifleman

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 07:12 PM

Just found this if anyone is interested. From the info i have been looking at they are the same turbos, diff name but I'm not 100% sure

http://www.kamakdyna...ATALOG_2011.pdf

#116 slammed14

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 08:34 PM

Good to hear the cover wont mattwr that much prefer stealth look or as much as possible.

#117 Nic19

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Posted 12 September 2011 - 08:56 PM

They are kamak/kinugawa/kando all the same company sort of thing.

#118 Rifleman

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 06:44 AM

View Postslammed14, on 12 September 2011 - 08:34 PM, said:

Good to hear the cover wont mattwr that much prefer stealth look or as much as possible.
I chose the 3" cover so I can just make a custom 3" intake pipe straight to my z32 AFM which is bolted to my stock s13 Airbox. No messing around with reducers

#119 jonesl

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 08:24 AM

View PostRifleman, on 13 September 2011 - 06:44 AM, said:

View Postslammed14, on 12 September 2011 - 08:34 PM, said:

Good to hear the cover wont mattwr that much prefer stealth look or as much as possible.
I chose the 3" cover so I can just make a custom 3" intake pipe straight to my z32 AFM which is bolted to my stock s13 Airbox. No messing around with reducers

Sounds like a good idea, Judging by the photos, You may have to rotate the compressor housing to get out let pipe to line up. easy peasy

#120 ae86racer

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 08:56 AM

Just saw this thread.

I bought a kando TD06SL2 w/ 8cm rear and 3" front. I'm VERY happy with the results. The turbo is very responsive and I have full boost well before 4000rpm, torque is peaking not much after 3000 and flat till 6000rpm.

We have some issues to overcome, the wastegate flapper was hitting the dump pipe flange (DOH) but the preliminary results are very promising. Once we have the boost controlled and some ignition timing in the thing I will load a dyno sheet.

I'm running standard S13 inlet, exhaust mani and cams. We only have 243hp @ 6300 so far because of the boosting problems and ignition timing. Will be good to see what happens once the boost is under control and we can wind it out over 7000rpm.

Here's a quick video







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